Global Channels Memory Leak Debugging

Hi, I am trying to debug a memory leak.

I have dumped early and late application states with dotnet-dump and trying to get some conclusions with .NET Memory Profiler.

The main difference seems to be an abundance of unreachable Channel instances.

I am heavily using Global channels in the application - for passing parameters, textures, state objects.

Dump after a large number of hours running

Dump of fresh application

The application is exported from 2025.7.0-0287

  • Were there some memory fixes in the channel area?
  • Are there some special considerations I should do when handling Global Channels as to avoid memory leaks?
  • I see that GlobalChannel node is now marked as obsolete - what is the replacement?

Also attaching dotnet-dump analyze list of largest objects

> dumpheap -stat   
Statistics:
          MT     Count     TotalSize Class Name
...
7ff9ae2c49a0   503,306    64,423,168 VL.Core.NodeContext
7ff9afcbda48 1,733,020    65,959,816 System.Reactive.Subjects.Subject<System.Object>+SubjectDisposable[]
7ff9ad4bc4d8 1,743,193    68,318,888 System.Object[]
7ff9ae471938 1,737,726    69,509,040 System.Reactive.Disposables.CompositeDisposable
7ff9b114bd50 3,465,938    83,182,512 VL.Lib.Basics.Resources.Provider<VL.Lib.Reactive.UpLink>
7ff9b114d4a8 1,732,969    83,182,512 VL.Lib.Reactive.SubChannelHelpers+<>c__DisplayClass5_0<System.Object, System.Object>
7ff9afcbea50 1,732,998    83,183,904 System.Collections.Concurrent.ConcurrentDictionary<System.String, VL.Lib.Reactive.IChannel<System.Object>>+Node
7ff9afa576b0 3,468,038    83,232,912 System.Reactive.Disposables.SerialDisposable
7ff9ae4779c0 3,482,820    83,587,680 System.Reactive.Disposables.AnonymousDisposable
7ff9ae4753a8 1,736,204    97,277,040 System.IDisposable[]
7ff9afcbd880 3,045,791    97,465,312 System.Reactive.Subjects.Subject<System.Object>+SubjectDisposable
7ff9b11473a8   857,868   102,944,160 VL.Lib.Reactive.Channel<VL.Lib.Collections.Spread<System.Attribute>>
7ff9b114b1e0 1,732,969   110,910,016 System.Func<VL.Lib.Reactive.UpLink>
7ff9b114b2b8 1,732,969   110,910,016 System.Action<VL.Lib.Reactive.UpLink>
7ff9b114bfa0 1,732,969   110,910,016 VL.Lib.Basics.Resources.ResourceProvider+<>c__DisplayClass27_0<VL.Lib.Reactive.UpLink>
7ff9b114af98 1,732,969   110,910,016 VL.Lib.Reactive.SubChannelHelpers+<>c__DisplayClass4_0
7ff9afa56028 1,733,549   110,947,136 System.Func<System.Action>
7ff9ad4b5fa8 5,218,797   125,251,128 System.Object
7ff9ad683c20     3,270   129,441,971 System.Byte[]
7ff9b0824628 2,188,099   140,038,336 VL.Core.ObjectGraphNode
7ff9b114c228 1,732,969   152,501,272 VL.Lib.Basics.Resources.ResourceProvider+<>c__DisplayClass30_0<VL.Lib.Reactive.UpLink, System.Int32>
7ff9af0cbe40 3,466,302   166,382,496 System.Reactive.AnonymousObserver<System.Object>
7ff9afcbc500 1,732,970   207,956,400 VL.Lib.Reactive.Channel<System.Object>
7ff9aea9f460 3,466,492   221,855,488 System.Action<System.Object>
7ff9ae477730 3,486,041   223,106,624 System.Action
7ff9b114bc88 5,198,907   332,730,048 System.Func<VL.Lib.Basics.Resources.IResourceHandle<VL.Lib.Reactive.UpLink>>
7ff9ad56ec08 6,629,872   510,729,382 System.String

please start reading here: Introducing: Public Channels

then please test this again with latest 7.0 preview version and let us know if you still have issues.

Very cool @joreg !

Thanks for the pointer, will refactor, re-export and report back 🙏

had another look at Select (ByPath) which now should release all resources (anonymous channels and syncers) when the last one for a given (main channel, relative path) gets disposed.

please try preview 7.0 469

thanks for the report!

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Thank you @gregsn , trying it out!

The issue indeed remained in the last version even after PublicChannel refactoring, though I waited with the report until I have proper dumps again.

Will test and report back.

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@gregsn I think that’s it! Thank you ❤️
I’m glad I could help identify this.

I left the app running overnight and the memory remains stable at around 400MB instead of shooting into GBs.

Screenshot 2025-08-07 093509

However, while much less critical, I now have an exception when closing the app

See the end of this message for details on invoking 
just-in-time (JIT) debugging instead of this dialog box.

************** Exception Text **************
System.Collections.Generic.KeyNotFoundException: The given key 'GzJcuGsfeNmQB92ATlvK4S T7TU6HR3ikRO01obNLrKXz' was not present in the dictionary.
   at System.Collections.Concurrent.ConcurrentDictionary`2.ThrowKeyNotFoundException(TKey key)
   at System.Collections.Concurrent.ConcurrentDictionary`2.get_Item(TKey key)
   at VL.Lib.Reactive.ChannelHelpers.RemoveAccessorNode(IChannel channel, NodeContext node)
   at _AppControl_.Application.PublicChannel_P`1.<>c__DisplayClass3_1.<Update>b__2()
   at VL.AppServices.CompilationHelper.ShieldedDisposeForManagedFields(Object x)
   at VL.AppServices.CompilerServices.Intrinsics.CacheManager`2.Dispose()
   at VL.AppServices.CompilationHelper.ShieldedDisposeForManagedFields(Object x)
   at _AppControl_.Application.PublicChannel_P`1.Dispose()
   at _AppControl_.Application.PublicChannel_P`1.System.IDisposable.Dispose()
   at VL.AppServices.CompilationHelper.ShieldedDisposeForManagedFields(Object x)
   at _Nepras_Hydropolis_App_.Nepras.Hydroplis.Channels.TestBeepEnabledGlobalChannel_P.Dispose()
   at _Nepras_Hydropolis_App_.Nepras.Hydroplis.Channels.TestBeepEnabledGlobalChannel_P.System.IDisposable.Dispose()
   at VL.AppServices.CompilationHelper.ShieldedDisposeForManagedFields(Object x)
   at _Nepras_Hydropolis_App_.Nepras.Hydroplis.Render.SourceTextureChannel_P.Dispose()
   at _Nepras_Hydropolis_App_.Nepras.Hydroplis.Render.SourceTextureChannel_P.System.IDisposable.Dispose()
   at VL.AppServices.CompilationHelper.ShieldedDisposeForManagedFields(Object x)
   at _Nepras_Hydropolis_App_.Nepras.Hydroplis.Render.SourceTextureChannels_P.__QuDtOwJ3hUWPb8tMz7eFb0.System.IDisposable.Dispose()
   at VL.AppServices.CompilerServices.Intrinsics.LifetimeManager.Dispose()
   at VL.AppServices.CompilationHelper.ShieldedDisposeForManagedFields(Object x)
   at _Nepras_Hydropolis_App_.Nepras.Hydroplis.Render.SourceTextureChannels_P.Dispose()
   at _Nepras_Hydropolis_App_.Nepras.Hydroplis.Render.SourceTextureChannels_P.System.IDisposable.Dispose()
   at VL.AppServices.CompilationHelper.ShieldedDisposeForManagedFields(Object x)
   at _Nepras_Hydropolis_App_.Nepras.Hydroplis.Nepras_Hydropolis_AppApplication_P.Dispose()
   at _Nepras_Hydropolis_App_.Nepras.Hydroplis.Nepras_Hydropolis_AppApplication_P.System.IDisposable.Dispose()
   at VL.AppServices.ExportedAppHost.RunCoreAsync(Action pumpMessages)
   at VL.App.WindowsForms.WindowsFormsAppHost.Application_Idle(Object sender, EventArgs e)
   at System.Threading.Tasks.Task.<>c.<ThrowAsync>b__128_0(Object state)
   at InvokeStub_SendOrPostCallback.Invoke(Object, Span`1)
   at System.Reflection.MethodBaseInvoker.InvokeWithOneArg(Object obj, BindingFlags invokeAttr, Binder binder, Object[] parameters, CultureInfo culture)


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Ok. Should be gone with upcoming. Thanks

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